Please, PLEASE, check out a recent post from Searchlight Magazine showing the ties between Anders Behring Breivik… and our very own English Defence League. Its something highly important to consider given the protest by the EDL today in Tower Hamlets. Ive previously posted my views on that…
Breivik, the recent murderer of 77 people in Norway, many under 18, in a vicious far-right attack on the organs of the left in Norway, has drawn much attention to the burgeoning anti-islamic movement in Europe. It has been previous shown that he drew at least some inspiration from the EDL, and referenced them in his manifesto, and now we can see evidence of direct contact, and some form of verbal support.
This must be a sign to the British government and people that the EDL is a highly-dangerous organisation.
Even if not directly influential to Breivik’s acts, and publicly condemning of them, this does show that the EDL and Breivik come from similar platforms. They share a view of the world, a paradigm, where extreme Islam is dangerous, an alien, invading force, which needs to be met and defeated. They act in militaristic terms. They, all-too-often, conflate extreme Sharia with Islam.
They verbally supported him – and even if they did not encourage him to commit horrendous acts of murder, they validated his world-view.
We must, must, fight such worldviews in all its forms, all stages of development. It is true that the EDL are not as far down the path to violent extremism as Breivik is (I use present tense. I doubt he regrets his actions). But, either certain individuals (following validation of their views in lesser forms by the EDL) or the organisation itself, may very well develop to such a point in the future. All who start down this path, if they go far enough, will fall into the belief in the need for violence.
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I have just come back from living for a year in Prague, Czech Republic. I met a many interesting people there. When a man openly denied the holocaust in front of me…. it scared me.
I am not saying that it cannot be debated (we can debate numbers, techniques, who was involved…). All topics must be available for debate.
But to deny the Nazi’s intent to wipe out the Jewish population, and many other groups, is ignoring such basic facts of history of decent society’s social construction of the world, that I find it impossible to understand, condone, and I truly do fear its spread.
I cannot, I cannot, bear to see that happening in this country, to see a British future where Holocaust Denial and other forms of racism is, at any level, acceptable, let alone institutionalised in party-politics.
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I fear the spread of the EDL is the first sign of this.
While they may not actively claim to adhere to this viewpoint, a paradigm of utter racism, and violence, they’re opening the door. Through that door walks the BNP, with the National Front hot on its coat-tails… eventually Combat 18, Blood and Honour and worse. At what point do we draw the line?
When do we close the door? When do we say “enough! We cannot allow this. This is not us. This is not Britain”?
When do we tell those on this path that this? When do we tell them we can’t have this in our nation any longer?
When do we stand up for British values against those who falsely claim to stand for them?
When do we stop the shift of the British centre further right, when do we close the door to extremists, when do we say “enough”?
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Related articles
- Banning Protest – Is it right? (spinelessliberal.wordpress.com)
- EDL leader calls Brevik a ‘monster’ (mirror.co.uk)
- Gunman ‘called EDL a blessing’ (mirror.co.uk)
- Is Anders Breivik in This Photograph? (thetruthiswhere.wordpress.com)


At the end of the day we have to accept that, by virtue of living in a liberal democracy, we will inevitably share a platform with people whose views happen to be of the greatest repugnance to us. That is the price we pay for the liberty to air our own (possibly controversial) views without fear of reprisal from state or fellow man, and is to be embraced as the pinacle of free society and human development.
Extremists of all ilks are not to be feared and should not be discriminated against; Islamist or Fascist, the antidote to the particular brand of poison they spew is open, reasoned debate. You cannot destroy an idea by banning it, or slapping control orders on those who propagate it. It sounds naive, but the truth is that logical argument alone can weaken and destroy the illogical menace of extremism.
re: “When do we close the door? When do we say “enough! We cannot allow this. This is not us. This is not Britain”?” etc…
It’s extremely simple to say “This is outrageous – we should stop this!” but curtailing the liberties of people based solely on the views they hold is the thin end of an extremely vicious and destructive wedge.
If X wishes to deny the Holocaust, don’t despair at his idiocy, or stigmatise and ostracise him; educate him.
I would agree. I want to agree. I desperately want to agree. Believe me on that.
But I can’t.
I agree that we can educate children and young people as to the truth of, to use an example, the holocaust, and draw them away from extremism that way. But I see little evidence of it working in the case of embittered adults of the EDL, Combat 18, Islamist groups… there is some success by groups who get people away from extremist groups, but not nearly enough.
Anti-brainwashing techniques, yes, but education… I can’t see it providing a strong enough response.
With that in mind, the only thing I can see working to combat extremism is to prevent it having a voice, to prevent it infecting the rest of the populace.
I know it is the thin end of a wedge… which is why I dislike my own proposals …I know it limits the liberties I so dearly hold, I know that we could see utterly horrific consequences… but it is simply another thin end of the wedge to see the EDL marching. Eventually, with little enough resistance, we will see civil strife on a national scale, with the EDL’s inheritors ‘crusading’ against anyone with darker skin than a Norwegian… I don’t want to see that. I AM afraid of that future…
I’ve debated with a holocaust denier. It’s nearly impossible to make them see sense. My books of evidence, my eye-witness accounts, my scientific tests, are meaningless to them compared to a single pamphlet, which I could easily disprove… they exist within their own paradigm, and I don’t know how debate can break through.
Again, after my upcoming module I may change my mind. I may see that reasoned debate can work. But I haven’t seen it yet. And when there are innocent people in the cross-fire if the EDL marches into civilian areas,